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Saturday, March 17, 2007

"Par Avion" Discussion and Spoilers for "The Man From Tallahassee" and More

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A brief synopsis of this week's podcast episode: Josh and guests Big-O, Curt Yanko, Amanda, and Master Nak discuss "Par Avion," lots of great spoilers for the upcoming episode "The Man From Tallahassee," plus bonus spoilers on what is yet to come in Season 3.

This week's episode is longer than usual; please send me feedback about whether you prefer the usual short episodes or the more in-depth discussions of the show: thelostmeister at gmail dot com.

More detailed show notes—and some additional things that I forgot to mention in the podcast—are coming soon! Subscribe to the blog feed and stay tuned.

*UPDATE , 20 March 2007*
Here are some more complete show notes from the 17 March podcast.
  • We now know that Christian Shephard is Claire's dad
    • Until Claire met her dad, she apparently thought that he had died when she was 2
    • For some, the fact that Christian Shephard was Claire's father was a big revelation, while it seems that many long-time fans expected it because of a scene from "Two for the Road"
  • The level of exposition on the show (that is, spelling things out so the viewers will make connections more easily) is increasing
  • An analysis of the conversation between Kate and Mikhail
    • What are the qualifications for being on "the list"?
    • Is Jacob "Him"?
    • Mikhail indicated that he knew Locke previously, and that he was paralyzed
      • Did he know Locke personally, or did he just have information about him like Juliet had about Jack?
  • Who are island natives among The Others?
    • Ben claims to be
    • We know Juliet was recruited
    • Mikhail claims he was recruited
    • What is the timeline for the purge? Was Juliet recruited by the DHARMA Initiative or by The Others? It sounds like Mikhail was recruited by The Others.
  • Was Kelvin the *real* last surviving member of the DHARMA Initiative, or was he an Other?
  • What sources of information on the show can we really trust?
    • Probably not Mikhail; we know he lied about at least one thing
    • Definitely we can trust flashbacks, e.g. Juliet's
    • Possibly Karl, who rebelled agaist the Others and seemed to be speaking truthfully
  • Is there any significance to Claire's mom being a librarian?
  • Is Claire's mom still alive? Christian is dead, so would her life support still be funded somehow? Would the Australian government fund it since it's against the law to pull the plug?
  • Locke stole C4 explosives from The Flame
    • This indicates he intentionally blew up the hatch, whether by entering 77 or manually
    • Locke's destroying the hatch is similar to when he knocked out Sayid in Season 1 when Sayid was trying to do the triangulation in an attempt to communicate with the outside world
    • Why would Locke spoil everyone else's chance of leaving the island? If someone came to rescue them, he wouldn't have to leave the island.
  • Christian sang to Claire when she was a baby
    • We can probably assume this was "Catch a Falling Star"
      • Does this indicate that Christian might have connections with The Others? When Claire was in The Staff, the mobile in the baby's room played "Catch a Falling Star."
  • Jack played catch with Tom
    • This was probably the first time Jack "had fun" with The Others - he kind of hesitated before spiking the ball
  • The Barracks seems to be the "Otherville" we saw in the first episode of Season 3
  • Danielle did in fact go with Sayid and the group beyond the pylons
    • This contradicts her claim that she avoids dangerous situations involving The Others
    • Where is Alex right now?
  • Mikhail said it's currently possible for them to leave the island via the submarine, but that they wouldn't be able to find their way back
  • Locke doesn't know about Claire's sea bird plan or Penny Widmore's apparent plot to find the island
NOT discussed on the podcast:
  • Mikhail: "The man who brought all of my people here" - Who are "all Mikhail's people"? All of The Others? Are other Russians on the island?
SPOILERS discussed in the podcast:
  • From last week's U.S. preview for the next episode:
    • We'll find out how Locke became paralyzed
    • Locke's true agenda will apparently be revealed; we see him aiming a gun at Ben, who is lying in his bed
      • I assume that Locke is angry because Ben conned him into thinking that he didn't enter the numbers in the Swan station, which led Locke to begin to lose faith in the island and ultimately destroy the hatch
    • Ben: "I know you spent four years in a wheelchair and I know how you ended up in it"
    • Locke says he's not there [at the Barracks] for Jack
    • Locke appears to be looking down a hole, possibly the entrance into the submarine
    • Locke has his hands in the air as if in surrender, and behind him a submarine (the only submarine, the Galaga?) blows up
      • Was this sub the only way The Others had of leaving the island?
  • The official ABC synopsis for the upcoming episode, "The Man from Tallahassee": "Ben tries to persuade a determined Locke to call off his destructive plan by offering him some of the secrets of the island, and Kate's reunion with Jack does not go off as planned when she discovers that he has made a deal with 'The Others.'"
  • Tom, Alex, Richard Alpert (Juliet's recruiter—why is he in this episode??), and Anthony Cooper (Locke's dad) are all in the upcoming episode
  • I theorized that we'll find out eventually that Anthony Cooper is "the real Sawyer"—that is, the man who conned James "Sawyer" Ford's parents
  • Sayid is going to meet Alex
  • On March 28th, Boone and Shannon will be back!
  • According to TV Guide, in an episode that will air in mid-April, Jack will reunite with the other survivors on the beach!
  • On April 11th, we may see connections between Juliet's role as a fertility doctor and Sun's baby (does Juliet go to the beach with Jack?)
  • Cassidy, the mother of Sawyer's daughter, shows up in a flashback other than Sawyer's
  • The love triangle between Kate, Jack, and Sawyer isn't over
  • There will be at least 2 more deaths before the end of this season
    • Most likely not Jack or Sawyer, according to TV Guide
    • Charlie may be one of the ones to die this season; Dominic Monaghan has indicated that he wouldn't be upset if he left the show, indicating that he sees it as a job
      • The executive producers hinted that Desmond saving Charlie multiple times may result in other kinds of changes
SPOILERS that were NOT discussed in the podcast:
  • From the Canadian promo for "The Man from Tallahassee":
    • Locke says "This is going to be more complicated than we thought."
    • Kate says they need to rescue Jack, and Sayid says "He may not want to be rescued."
    • Jack tells Kate "Get out of here. Right now."
    • An Other forces Kate to the ground, someone asks her "Who else is with you?" Jack instructs Kate, "Just answer the question," and an Other cocks a gun aimed at her.
    • Locke aims a gun at Ben, who is in bed, and he says "I'm not looking for Jack. I'm looking for the submarine."

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I prefer the shorter format

Monday, March 19, 2007 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I did enjoy the longer in depth podcast. (Maybe not an hour and 15 minutes) But, maybe like 40-45 minutes would be good.

Monday, March 19, 2007 4:56:00 PM  

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