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Tuesday, January 27, 2009

Season 5 Premier "Because You Left" and "The Lie" Discussion

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the JoshMeister, James721, and other fellow LOST fans discuss the Season 5 premier episodes, "Because You Left" and "The Lie," and take a look at what we might see in episode 3.

Show notes for this edition of the podcast:
  • Season 5 Episode 1: "Because You Left"
  • Flashback:
    • Alarm clock goes off at 8:15
    • Dr. Marvin Candle — whose real name is Dr. Pierre Chang — is an actor in the orientation films but is really a scientist
    • Frozen donkey wheel x-ray
    • Faraday was there working in the cave!

  • Flashforward:
    • Ben: "Did he tell you what happened to them when the island moved?"
    • Jack: "No."
    • Ben: "Then I guess we'll never know."
    • Caption: "Three years earlier"

  • Present (?):
    • There's a flash, and Locke suddenly is by himself

    • Faraday: "We must have been inside the radius"
    • Bernard: "There is no camp ... kitchen, tents, all food and water ... gone"
    • Faraday: "It's not gone ... before it happens again ... camp is not gone; hasn't been built yet"
    • Faraday: either they or the island are moving through time
    • Locke unaccounted for -- cut to Locke, he sees Yemi's plane crash, Ethan Rom shoots him in the leg

  • Flashforward:
    • Sun flying to L.A.
    • Charles Widmore has her detained - he refers to her remark about their common interests
    • Sun explains that they both want "to kill Benjamin Linus"

    • Sayid and Hurley go to "safe house"? Two people inside tried to kill them but Sayid got them first, people took picture of Hurley after he picked up the first assailant's gun

  • Present (?):
    • Charlotte wondered if Widmore was looking for them
    • Miles goes hunting and finds a dead boar
    • Dan: "You cannot change anything."
    • Sawyer: "Then who can [stop the time-jumps]?" — cut to Locke
    • Richard Alpert to John Locke: "The only way to save the island, John, is to get your people back here - they're already home so you have to convince them to come back - you're going to have to die, John"
    • flashes again, John is back in the past when Yemi's plane is on the cliff

    • Sawyer, Juliet, etc. are back outside the hatch - hasn't been found by Locke yet
    • Charlotte's nose is bleeding, Dan panics, looks up something in the journal, knocks on hatch back door, tells Desmond to go find Dan's mother in Oxford, doesn't get to tell Des her name?
      • Who is Dan's mother? (Theory on this later.)
  • Flashforward:
    • Penny: "You've been off the island for 3 years now"
    • Des: "It wasn't a dream, Pen. It was a memory." Going to Oxford

  • Season 5 Episode 2: "The Lie"
  • Flashback: Three years ago
    • Jack is making up a story about going back home

  • Flashforward:
    • Hurley tries to wake up Sayid
    • Ana Lucia pulls him over!!
      • Ana Lucia: "What if I were real?"
      • Says Hurley needs "new clothes... safe place... someone you trust, stay away from cops, do not get arrested... Oh yeah, Libby says hi."

  • Present:
    • Neil Frogurt is with the group on the beach — previously we had only seen him on a mobisode, and before that he had been mentioned by the executive producers on The Official LOST Podcast

  • Flashforward:
    • Ben flushes Jack's pills, tells Jack to pack anything he wants because he's never coming back

    • Kate about to call Jack, decides against it, someone calls her (we find out later it's Sun!)

    • Hurley takes Sayid to his dad's house

    • Kate: floor 31 (Kate says to Aaron "three-one") 3 + 1 = 4, one of the numbers
    • She went to see Sun!

    • Ben has an ally (June) who is watching Locke's body, knows all about Jack, etc.

  • Present (?):
    • Charlotte has a headache, couldn't remember her mom's maiden name
    • Neil Frogurt gets hit with a flaming arrow!

  • Flashforward:
    • Hurley's dad takes Sayid to Jack, Jack takes Sayid to hospital

    • Hurley comes clean to his mom, says they shouldn't have lied

  • Present (?):
    • Sawyer and Juliet are captured - by DHARMA Initiative people? army people?
      • Based on the screenshots, it doesn't appear that they're DHARMA since they don't seem to have DHARMA jumpsuits

  • Flashforward:
    • Jack hooks up Sayid to breathing machine, injects him with something, takes his vitals, Sayid wakes up

    • Ben tries to talk Hurley into going with him, but Hurley turns himself in to the police

  • Present (?):
    • Locke rescues Sawyer and Juliet

  • Flashforward:
    • Woman making calculations on chalkboard (much like Daniel Faraday did in "The Constant")
    • The woman looks at computer screen: "Event Window Determined"
    • We see that the woman is... Ms. Hawking! (the "ring lady" from "Flashes Before Your Eyes")
      • Wait... is Ms. Hawking Daniel's mom?! If so, they work for opposing sides; Hawking is obviously with Ben, and Dan works for Charles Widmore
    • Hawking to Ben: "You have 70 hours
    • If Ben can't get them all back, "then God help us all" -Ms. Hawking

  • Screenshots and Easter Eggs:
  • Minor spoilers ahead. Preview for next week's episode, "Jughead":
    • Desmond tells Penny he needs to go back to the island
    • Jack and Ben try to talk Kate into going back
    • Locke says to Sawyer: "You want her [Kate] to come back, don't you?"
    • More of the military people with guns
    • Locke asks Richard Alpert how to get off the island

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Monday, January 26, 2009

Kris White Interview, Part 3, plus Season 4 Finale Discussion

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In this episode, the JoshMeister roleplays part three (the final part) of Congested's interview with Kris White, host and producer of The Official LOST Podcast. the JoshMeister and fellow LOST fans also discuss the Season 4 finale, "There's No Place Like Home" Parts 2 and 3.

Listen to Part 1 of the Kris White interview
Listen to Part 2 of the Kris White interview, plus tJM's Season 4 finale speculations and spoilers
Listen to Part 3 of the Kris White interview, plus tJM's Season 4 finale discussion
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Show notes for this edition of the podcast:
  • Part 3 of 3, Kris White interview by Congested from Audibly Lost
  • PART 2 of the Season 4 Finale - Notes
  • Flashforward:
    • Starts where Season 3 ends
    • Jeremy Bentham - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Bentham - man whose name was in the newspaper, the man in the coffin
    • Kate: "You believed him, him of all people"
    • Jack: "He said that was the only way I could keep you safe, you and Aaron."
    • Kate: "Don't you say his name!"
    • Kate: 3 years since they've been home
    • Kate: "How dare you ask me to go back!"

  • Present:
    • Jack and Sawyer at Orchid
    • Locke is trying to find way into Orchid?

    • Desmond says C4 on the freighter would be nearly impossible to defuse without blowing it up

    • The Others, Kate, and Sayid free Ben
    • Keamy is killed by Richard Alpert (or so it seems), but the freighter doesn't blow up - we are left to wonder if it wasn't supposed to have been a metronome monitoring his pulse like the prop seemed to hint

  • Flashforward:
    • Hurley has visitors - Walt and his grandma
    • Walt says that Jeremy Bentham came to see him
    • Walt to Hurley: "I don't understand why you're all lying."
    • Hurley: "We're lying because it's the only way to protect everyone that didn't come back."
    • Walt: "Like my dad?"
    • Hurley: "Like your dad, yeah."
  • Present:
    • Locke to Jack: "I would like you to stay... You're not supposed to go home."
    • Locke: [After going home,] "You're going to have to lie about everything... it's the only way to protect it" [the Island]
    • Locke: "It's not an island. It's a place where miracles happen."
    • Ben to Jack: "I'd want to be on that boat within the hour."
    • Locke: "Lie to them, Jack... they'll believe you."

    • Michael is going to try to freeze the battery attached to the C4
    • Michael is happy to hear that Sun is pregnant

    • Miles: "I'm surprised you want to leave?"
    • "After all the time you've spent trying to get back here"

    • "Is this the magic box?" "No, John, it's not."

    • The Orchid - Station 6 of 6
    • Dr. Edgar Halliwax: "conduct unique experiments in both space and time"
    • vault "adjacent to negatively charged exotic matter"
    • "avoid leaving inorganic materials inside chamber"
    • "metallic objects must never be placed within the vault"
    • Ben puts a bunch of metal stuff in chamber
    • Someone called up the elevator, Ben asked Locke for his gun
    • Keamy was wearing body armor, hence Richard Alpert didn't actually kill him
    • Ben stabs Keamy in the neck, kills him, triggers the remote to set off the C4
      • Ben didn't care about the people on the boat, cared more about getting revenge for his daughter
    • Charlotte decides to stay "For now, anyway"
    • Charlotte says she wants to find the place where she was born - on the island. This is more evidence that she worked for the DHARMA Initiative

    • Sawyer whispers something to Kate - to find Cassidy Phillips? Something about Clementine?
    • He jumps from the helicopter to lighten the load because of a fuel leak, and he swims back to the island

  • PART 3
  • Flashforward:
    • Sayid kills someone outside of Santa Rosa - asked the man for the time, 8:15
    • Sayid visits Hurley - "This isn't a visit. I want you to come with me."
    • "Bentham's dead. Two days ago. They said it was suicide... We're being watched. I just killed a man who's been perched outside this facility for the past week."
    • Not going back, are we?
    • No, just somewhere safe?
    • Okay then.
    • Hurley: "Checkmate, Mr. Eko."

  • Present:
    • Locke tries to save Keamy's life, fails
    • "Wherever you go, he'll find you." "Not if I find him first."
    • Red light comes on on freighter
    • Michael's battery freezing plan worked, but only 5 mins left of ice in the tank
    • Christian Shephard appeared to Michael, Michael didn't know who he was, Christian told Michael "You can go now" and the freighter blew up -- with Michael and (presumably) Jin still on board
    • Frank refused to turn the helicopter around -- is Frank one of the two people that Sun blames for her husband's death?

  • Flashforward:
    • Sun sees Charles Widmore exiting a building
    • Sun: "You and I have common interests"
    • We're not the only ones who left the island
    • "Miss Kwon, why would you want to help me?"

  • Present:
    • Sawyer swims back shirtless, finds Juliet drinking rum on the beach
    • Sawyer looks back and sees the smoke from the boat
    • Ben: "I'm going somewhere cold" - puts on Halliwax jacket
    • Ben: "The island wants me to suffer the consequences"
    • Ben: "Whoever moves the island can never come back"
    • John is now the leader of The Others
    • Ben walks down a tunnel into an icy cold cave
    • Looks up, says "I hope you're happy now, Jacob"
    • Prys frozen wheel loose, turns it
      • This must be the "frozen donkey wheel"
    • Another purple sky, then the island disappears and there's nowhere to land, the helicopter takes a really nasty crash and flips upside-down frontways - how in the world could anyone survive that? Especially the baby! But everyone does

  • Flashforward:
    • Claire to Kate in a dream: "Don't bring him back, Kate. Don't you dare bring him back" [Aaron]
    • Kate to Aaron: "I'm sorry."
      • Kylene theorizes that Kate apologized to Aaron because she's going back

  • Present:
    • On a raft, Hurley tells everyone that Locke moved the island
    • Frank Lapidus sees a boat
    • Rather than celebrating, Jack looks serious and tells everyone that they're going to have to lie
    • Jack: "Just let me do the talking"

    • Searcher is the name of the ship
    • One of the guys from the Listening Station is on board!
    • Desmond sees Penny!
    • Des: "How did you find me?"
    • Pen: "Your phone call. I have a tracking station."
    • Des: "I love you Penny, and I'll never leave you again."
    • Jack immediately tells Penny that he needs to talk to her
    • They're going to Mumbata, "because it's the only way to keep them safe" -Sayid
    • Jack: "Don't let him find you, Desmond. And I'll see you in another life, brother."

  • Flashforward:
    • Jack going to Hoffs/Drawlar Funeral Home to see Jeremy Bentham's casket - this time it's at night, Jack breaks in
    • Ben shows up, asks: "Did he tell you that I was off the island?"
    • Jack: "Yes, he did."
    • Ben: "When did you speak to him?"
    • Jack: "About a month ago."
    • Ben: "And Kate?"
    • Jack: "Yeah, yeah he came to see her too. He told me that after I left the island, some very bad things happened and he told me that it was my fault for leaving and he said that I had to come back."
    • Ben: "I'm here to tell you that the island won't let you come alone. All of you have to go back."
    • Jack: "Sun blames me for..."
    • Ben: "This is the way it has to be, Jack. It's the only way."
    • Jack: "How?"
    • Ben: "I have a few ideas."
    • Ben: "Jack, I said all of you. We're going to have to bring him, too."
    • John Locke is Jeremy Bentham! Why does he have a different name?
      • Kylene thinks because he couldn't be recognized because he's not one of the Oceanic Six
      • How did he get back from the island?

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Wednesday, January 21, 2009

Season 5 Premiere - Live Podcast Tonight!

As usual, I'm hosting a live podcast tonight after the new episode airs in the Pacific time zone. Listen, chat, or call in on TalkShoe at 11:00 PM Pacific (2:00 AM Eastern) to participate in the live show!

Many of you are probably wondering what happened to part 3 of the Kris White interview, or even more likely, the review of the Season 4 finale. They'll be posted soon. I really needed a break from the podcast during the hiatus. Thank you for your patience. Between my full-time job and having a family, there's very little time left over for podcasting. I think I'm going to be doing a lot less editing this season so I can hopefully post the podcast episodes sooner.

Talk to you tonight!


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